Randle McMurphy writes:
Brent I notice you do your o-lifts the day after quite hard squat and deadlift sessions.
Don’t you find that the fatigue from this really effects your o-lifts?
I am doing TM where I do o-lifts on the recovery day.
And I lose a lot of kilo’s on my o-lifts just because I am still very sore and tired from my volume day.
Randle, from what it sounds like, you just give too much of a fuck. Sometimes you just have to go hard, bro. Just keep in mind that someone out there is always training harder than you. There are probably things that you absolutely hate about this guy. He posts pictures of himself shirtless on facebook. With a fitted cap sitting crooked on his fucking head. He has never competed or trained anyone but he posts advice on message boards as though he is an authority on training. He does the oly lifts the day after he deadlifts. He deadlifts 5×5, with a rounded back, and straps, and is absolutely an ego lifter, because often he will forgo the last few sets of 5 and just work up to a single so everyone in the gym will see how strong he is with 495lbs on the bar. For accessory work he does rear and lateral barbell lunges, and he touts Bulgarian split squats as being equally effective for leg development as back squats. Then later that night when he goes to the same bar that every other useless fuck head in his town goes to on Friday nights he’ll put on a polo that’s a size too small so people will “know” that he lifts weights. People will ask him advice on working out and he will tell them about the dude from leangains.com and Lyle McDonald, even though he wouldn’t have the discipline for IF or any sort of controlled eating. Also, he’s in a fucking talentless band and all his songs are about generic tragic life experiences that he hasn’t even fucking had. Are you really going to let this pussy fucking bitch train harder than you? Because I sure as FUCK am not.
On Wednesday I ate a dry rubbed pork chop with 3 scrambled eggs topped with salsa verde and a sweet potato pre-workout.
Couch stretch, double lacrosse ball to t-spine, tack-and-stretch anterior deltoid with internal rotation.
Snatched up to 205lbs, cleaned 245lbs for a double and jerked it, c+jed 265lbs, pulled 325lbs x 6 double overhand no hook. Did some chest supported rowing for a quick pump, headed out. PS no bumpers in this workout.
Didn’t feel particularly good this workout, was hoping to snatch a bit more (i.e. power snatch 190lbs for a double or something) but the strength was not there. I felt ok about cleaning 245lbs for a double, but I’m pretty sure I could power clean that for a double and will be trying to hit higher squat clean doubles from here on out, and the grip PR in the deadlift is ok.
1st paragraph = Winning.
Does this advice still apply if you are natty?
it applies more if you are natty
Brent, do you have a problem with me? huh?
Don’t make me take out my ‘roid rage on you.
I am completely comfortable with ‘that guy’ training harder than me…
…Here is what I am taking:
My cycle starts 80 days prior to a competition
80-20 days prior: Testosterone Propionate 100mg/day in three days, then rest three days and repeat.
80-50 days prior: dianabol 20mg/day
75-45 days prior: stanzolol 20mg/day
60-40 days prior: oxandrolone 20 mg/day
50-35 days prior: clenbuterol 80 mcg/day
50-25 days prior: Proviron 50mg/day
60-14 days prior and 10-3 days prior: Somatropin 8-10 IU/day.
20-12 days prior and 10-2 days prior: Testosterone patches
35-0 days prior: Insulin post workout, total of 10 IU/day. Ekdisten, Creatine, L-carnitine, amino acids, vitamins, protein, Riboxin, mildronate.
As you can see, ‘that guy’ can train as hard as he wants…in fact, i WANT him to train harder than me just so i can win without even trying.
i LOLed irl
hey man i don’t have a problem with you all
serious answer, i think most people, myself included, could train a lot harder, and in fact if we want to develop into better athletes we must at some point accumulate and adapt to more and more volume
again, i’ll reference the training programs of LSUS/NMU which involve squat/dead/squat/dead Mon-Thurs and then on Sat snatch+c+j+front squat, and the training programs at the OTC which are in all likelihood more arduous than that
see also Max Aita attempting 310k back squat the day after hitting 302k, and how Pendlay’s athletes train in general
there is of course, always more than one way to skin a cat, but from my observation, increasing training load and volume has basically been tried and proven and is the most successful method of getting better
so, short answer, yes, at times i may be tired from previous workouts, but the key is to not fucking give a shit and go hard anyway
Volume has to be lower in the case of the programs you referenced, Brent. Otherwise you’re just training like Mark Brown.
volume per training session might drop, but Glenn’s athletes lift 2x a day and also 6 days a week, so overall volume increases as a result of the frequency even with Bulgarian style programming … they are lifting a lot more in terms of training load/cumulative tonnage than someone who just trains 3-4 days a week
and with LSUS/NMU, they’re doing multiple sets of 10 and 5 early on progressing to triples or less closer to competition, and for much of the training cycle Saturday = 12 singles in the c+j + 12-18 singles in the snatch on top of whatever else they do Mon-Thurs