Here’s the third installment of “AC teaches you how to do stuff more awesomely.” So far, he has gone over some tips on how to press better and how to bench better. Today, he goes over how to coach the squat.
There are two basic variations of the back squat: High Bar and Low Bar. They’re two different squats, but there are semi-similar ways to go about learning/doing/coaching them.
I want to help you teach the squat in general. First and foremost, you are going to to have the athlete stand in front of you like a mirror. Next, you are going to tell them to place their feet shoulder width apart. Just like the grip on the bench, this stance will provide the longest ROM with the most musculature utilized in the lift. It’s similar to the bench in that it’s harder to put your femurs into external rotation the wider you go (shoving your knees out). Next, their toes are going to be slightly pointed out. This will allow the athlete to shove their knees out to perform full ROM and get external rotation more than if their toes were pointed straight. If the toes are straight (most athletes don’t have the mobility to accomplish toes straight and knees out) and the athletes knees are forward instead of out all that muscle and bone and fleshy area of the hip/femur mash into one another making it harder to achieve depth. With that said, have the athlete squat down to depth and stay down there. Note: this is without the bar. Have the athlete take his hands, put his palms together and with his elbows, shove the knees out. All of this is being down while maintaining extension in both lumbar/thoracic spine (WE ARE STILL AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SQUAT).
Now this leads into the low-bar squat. Low bar uses a little more hamstring than a high bar, but if your athletes are doing a lot of cleans (full cleans) then the high bar may be of more use to you because the squat in the clean is similar to a high bar squat.
In case I lost your attention…
From there you are going to walk around behind the athlete and place your hands on their low back/hips and apply slight pressure. The weight should be placed right over the middle of the foot, roughly where you tie your shoe laces. THIS IS WHERE ALL THE WEIGHT IS ON A LOW BAR. You are then going to tell them to “DRIVE” their hips into your hands. This emphasizes “Hip Drive,” which is what low bar squatters use to rebound out of the hole.
Notice my hips driving me out of the bottom. Also notice how I maintain my bar position because my spine is in extension. Have them do this once or twice to get a feel for it. Another thing to note here: Their head position is neutral with their eyes fixed on a reference point a few feet in front of them. They ARE NOT LOOKING UP. Looking up destroys the tension that you attained through eccentric contraction in the hamstrings. The hips and knees move forward losing that stretch reflex. You can demonstrate this by doing a 3rd and 4th rep with the athlete in this demo phase. Have the athlete look at the ground a few feet in front of them and then command them to drive up (hands still on the hips), then have the athlete look up as hard as they can (like most coaches tell them too). Squatting should be significantly harder now. Keep in mind this is for the low-bar. You can get away with that more in the high-bar, but it’s not a good spinal position.
Now you can take them to the barbell. Start with just the bar and then move from there. For the low bar, the barbell sits along the spine of the scapula. It’s almost like a ridge that your body creates when you place yourself under the bar. When the athlete is under the bar, move so you can be in a position next to them. From there you are going to give them the last little touch up cues. When they unrack the bar it should coincide with a large breath of air and extension of the spine. Reference my video if you need to look again. Also, when they unrack it their elbows should be applying downward pressure on the bar. Do not let their elbows slack down. All the weight of the bar is on their back NOT on their arms. Again, notice in the video how my elbows stay high. They are going to take roughly two steps back and take the same stance they had when you were teaching them before. Now right before they go, you will tell them 2 last things: A: They are going to have to shove their knees out without their elbows, and B: They are going to REBOUND out of the bottom, so basically they aren’t pausing at the bottom.
Take a big breath and hold it for each rep. Each rep gets a new breath and it gets held FOR THE WHOLE REP.
At all times their eyes should be fixated on a reference point. It is hard to maintain balance if they are looking around.
Cues for Low Bar Squats:
“Knees out.” The athlete shoves their knees out for external rotation. Easier ROM, more musculature in the lift.
“Mid-Foot.” If you see the athlete shifting their weight, it can change the mechanics of the squat. This cues them to put their weight back on the middle of the foot.
“Drive.” This will remind the athlete to use his/her hips when they rebound out of the hole.
“Bounce.” This is tough for some people to get, but they essentially have to rebound out of the hole off of their hamstrings, using that eccentric contraction we talked about earlier. This is more of an advanced cue – for beginners, think “control down, fast up.”
Moving on to High-Bar Squats
The High Bar is similar in a few ways, but the bar placement is placed (higher) on the traps. This bar placement changes a few things. The torso has to maintain a more vertical position throughout the lift. The more vertical the torso, the more acute (closed) the knee angle will be. The “knees out” cue stays the same – it’s crucial for both styles of squats. The cue that changes here is “Mid-Foot.” The weight is emphasized on the heel, NOT the mid-foot. Put emphasis on “heels” on the way down and up. “Knees out” is just as important — common for lifters to bring them in at the bottom and on the way up in the high bar variation.
For more discussion on Low Bar and High Bar squats, see Justin’s article on the subject. Remember, neither of these articles is telling you exactly which is better for your situation, or demonizing either variation. If you’re confused, discuss the subject with your fellow lifters, your coach, and contemplate the issue quietly in the godswoods. Or, you know, try ’em both, and shit. If you can’t hit 4 or 5 plates with both variations, you should probably just do more of them. – Jacob
Good stuff. Can’t wait for the deadlift post. I’m pretty sure I’m fucking something up.
Also, is there any difference in how a female should perform a deadlift versus a male? Or is it really just based on body type (long/short torso, legs, arms, etc) rather than male/female? When my wife lowers the weight to the ground during a deadlift, the bar slides down her thighs. I’ve told her this shouldn’t happen (right?), but I don’t know what to tell her about fixing it.
The only universal difference between the deadlifts of guys and gals is that guys need to avoid hitting their junk. Everything else is based on body-type. Got a video? Submit it to me and I’ll pick it apart for Friday’s post, if you’d like.
She doesn’t pull again until after Friday. So maybe something for next week?
Great article. Picking up on stuff like this leaves me a lot more confident under the bar. My technique feels a lot better, this really grows on from Justins article about the same thing. Bane pic made me lol in the office too, good work.
If I want to lift mainly for PL purposes (training and competing) do you think it is necessary to adopt a low bar stance eventually to be my most competitive?
Not neccessarily, but usually, yes. It really depends on your body type and exactly how competitive you want to be. For some lifters, the HBBS is fine – I recently switched my lady friend to HB and she has PR’d her face off (see Monday’s post). That means she now has to get lots of extra posterior work (think: RDLRDLRDLRDL) to balance everything out. However, she isn’t planning on setting any national squat records. Most big high bar squatters can add 50+ pounds when switching to low bar, if they can stay healthy doing it. But you can get strong as hell either way.
that video never gets old, i love that dude’s intensity spotting AC
Thanks for this- always good to get the basics hammered in. I realize this is about teaching the squat, but I was wondering about paused squats. How would you suggest they be utilized in programming? I have been pausing on all warm up sets on at least 1 of my 2 weekly squat sessions. I am wondering if this may inhibit my bounce? Appreciate your thoughts here.
I personally despise pause-squats for raw lifters other than as a coaching drill to work on certain issues (meaning they would be performed during warmups only). I would never program them as a main lift, because a proper bounce is one of the most important things for a raw squatter to master.
AC, your thoughts?
Depending on where you are in your training career pause squats may be of some utility. You could use it more as extra volume if you’d like. As far as right now. I wouldn’t do them. It’s probably gonna inhibit the bounce, as you said.
Would you say that doing speed box squats with 50-60 % of 1RM a la Westside is a better way of training power out of the hole than using paused reps?
Not sure if trolling.
I exclusively high bar (~450-475 1RM), and just ordered Starting Strength as a way to learn the low bar. Anyone got any good images that show the bar/shoulder relationship from behind?
Well…that’s pretty much way better than what I wanted. Thanks for the link.
I was only ever taught the low bar squat. I have tried high bar on my own but it smashed the fuck out of my traps and I hated it. I probably did it wrong. There’s a lot of dudes that need to watch that video that ChadTheMeatBeast posted because I think they are under the impression that low bar means just north of turdcutter and their squat might pass for kind of a weird good morning. I know there is no such thing as perfect form but there is a such thing as being a jackass.
I keep nearly posting form questions, but I stop myself because I expect the andwer to be “Stop doing that”.
For example, I strained my lower back a bit the other day, I suspect from too much forward leaning and back collapse in lowish bar back squats. What can I do? In the future, not allow my weight to go forwards and keep my back tight.
Good reading though, thanks you big hairy bastards.
A statement like that is kinda vague homie. Make sure you are doing foam rolling/mobility work prior to lifting. You could just be suffering from poor mobility and it causes a defect in your squat. You could also be doing something mechanically wrong. Not sure. If its a lower back strength issue you could add accessory work in such as back extensions/rows/rack pulls etc.
One question on elbow position. I’m honestly not sure where on the low-bar to high-bar spectrum I fall. I’ve been coached to drive my elbows down when squatting to help keep my back tight (i.e. wrists are straight . Is this a HB cue or is it something you do in LB squatting as well?
I’ve heard that cue for both lifts from different people. Most likely it is a high bar cue. For future reference it’s probably a good idea to figure out which kind of squat your doing. It will directly influence the type of work that needs to be done in your training session.
I’ve always loved to squat, been doing so for approx 2 years (so I consider myself still a novice – 290lbs was my max high bar squat) – and always felt that I’ve had proper form. However I learned from your post that I haven’t been pushing my knees out (I do mainly high bar squats), so thank you!
I was wondering if you have any experiences to share about yourself or people you know developing knee pain/tightness – I have unfortunately had to put my squatting on hold for the past few months. X-rays came back fine. Physio says it might just be tightness in ITB or imbalance in quad/hamstring strength, so i’ve been foam rolling like hell and doing accessory work to compensate. However I tried to squat again a few days ago and again with the same symptoms. I’ll be going in to the physio again next week, but in the mean time do you have any tips? I’ve also recently ordered some TK knee sleeves, because I’m getting desperate.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hob6ogWINwM i dunno if my post showed up.. here is my squat pr, this form however slowly killed my adductors..tips?
(Q+A day question)
Dear 70’s big Big Dudes,
I recently tore my ACL and MCL, and am about to start 8 weeks in a hinge, then ACL surgery then whatever the rehab is post ACL surgery.
This means I can’t squat, dead, or bench (at least, not properly). So far I have thought of Seated presses, and Pull ups. Please do you have any other suggestions for things I can exercise (not train, etc) whith a knee fully out of action?
Do any of y’all have any experience rehabbing guys with my injuries? The doc commented that my strong hamstrings are doing quite a good job of taking over the work for the MCL. Way to go hammies! Anything that will help tighten up my sloppy knee joint would be extra appreciated.
Also, diet: Change to maintainence calories to avoid getting chub, or keep eating to supply fuel for repairs?
Love and hugs, etc. Ow3n
how did I post this on squats and not an up to date post? My internet shit is all ruined!
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