What the fuck are you talking about? The chinaman is not the issue here, Dude. I’m talking about drawing a line in the sand, Dude. Across this line, you DO NOT… Also, Dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please.
You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. There are ways, Dude. You don’t wanna know about it, believe me.
Anyone wanting to offer suggestions, or point me at some good info, I would like to know thoughts on assistance movements, as far as if any or where to insert them when doing the Texas method. Thanks.
If you guys have PBS, tonight on their series American Masters they are talking to Jeff Bridges and it’s called The Dude Abides. On the commercial I saw, he goes to a Lebowski themed store and meets the owner and fans. Looks pretty good. I’m in California and my Dish network guide says 9pm.
Justin, I clipped my chin jerking today. It made me think of you. I chipped my tooth. You can’t see it, but I can feel it. But, I hit a PR, so…whatever. I’m going to C&J 80kg at Worlds. Just sayin’.
@grotts
adding assistance work to TM sounds like it could be overkill. TM is already alot of work requiring alot of recovery, so I dont know if it’s wise or not. Maybe if you went extra light on volume day and put some assistance stuff at the end of that workout? also maybe you could just replace each main lift on volume day with its assistance counter parts, like dips and dumbell presses instead of bench, etc.,? then again these could be horrible suggestions. Im just thinking of what I would do if I felt I needed some assistance with TM. Try it n find out, unless one of the many more experienced people than me on here says it’s dumb haha. Probably depends on how long you’ve been doing TM and how well youve been recovering thus far. Where you think you need to add in more assistance work, you might actually need to be backing off and recovering better.
Justin in line with the above comment, if I wanted to run a TM with an emphasis on the Press (no benching at all), would it be safe to insert 3×5 heavy dips on Recovery day between the two presses?
I want to do heavy dips one day a week with the preference being Wednesday, but is this likely to interfere with Fridays 5RM press?
I realise experimentation is the only way to yield the true answer, but I’m interested in your opinion on the optimum positioning for the dips.
Would this work?
MONDAY
Squat 5×5
Press 5×5
Wtd Chin 3×5
WEDNESDAY
Power clean 5×3
Wtd Dip 3×5
Light squat 2x
This is my first attempt with the TM. I looked around quite a bit and am going with a fairly generic version of it:
Monday: 5×5 squat, 5×5 Press (alternate weekly with bench), 5×5 BB row. All sets straight across.
Wed: 80% or Mondays for 2 sets of each.
Friday: 5RM of each with the exception of row, replacing with DL
Maybe something to consider with including dips is to something similar to what I am doing with the press and the bench press (which I took from Rip’s PP). It basically breaks down Monday is press, Wed is bench, Fri is press, and the next week the opposite, still abiding by the said volume/intensity that comes with the day. Hopefully that makes sense.
How big of a role do you believe genetics play in one’s weightlifting/bodybuilding/powerlifting success? I read on t-nation that Andy Bolton was able to squat 500 and deadlift 600 at age 18 with no previous training experience, and there are plenty of people with multi-year experience who can’t do this. I feel like that t-nation article was likely to make readers to attribute shortcomings to their genetics rather than bro-science influenced training, but I’m curious to hear your thoughts.
@gurner
I would put weighted dips in after Press on the intensity day or volume day. If you did only 2×5 Dips on wednesday you will probably recover by Friday, or likewise do what Bill Starr recommends in SS.com’s Press article an all out set of 8,5 or 3 then a backoff (on 5 and 3 day) of 50lbs less.
For example I used 115×8 on dips and 90×8 pull-ups this tuesday and was able to improve my 1RM press 2.5lbs the next day to 210.
I also would advise against doing a 5RM for your press intensity day as strength in the press requires a fine line and higher reps don’t reinforce this. The press when trained for poundage instead of for big shoulders or bench assistance is an olympic lift, quite technical and ought to be treated as such. I don’t think work sets should be longer than 3 reps. And I personally only use singles as work sets the same way I’ve trained the Snatch and CJ.
For volume day you could either skip Pressing and do several sets of dips in the 8 or 5 rep range and accumulate 35-50 reps of heavy volume or do heavy press 6×3.
In the first example you would want to press lighter on Wednesday for the practice of the movement.
I’m inclined to add you also should bench press even if improving your press is the primary goal as benching with your press grip was a popular assistance exercise when the Press was contested. So if you are able and have access to a bench you might consider putting a 4th workout in your sequence of upper body lifts and rotating through 3 of the 4 each week. You’d bench every 9-10 days this way. And press twice as frequently, the same ratio Rippetoe recommends for people who’s main goal is to improve their press.
I told that kraut a f*cking thousand times that I don’t roll on Shabbos!
Shomer f*cking shabbos.
Smokey, this is not ‘Nam, this is bowling, there are rules.
This fucking dog has fucking papers.
You’re out of your element, Donny.
What the fuck are you talking about? The chinaman is not the issue here, Dude. I’m talking about drawing a line in the sand, Dude. Across this line, you DO NOT… Also, Dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please.
Uhh, nice marmot.
You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. There are ways, Dude. You don’t wanna know about it, believe me.
Anyone wanting to offer suggestions, or point me at some good info, I would like to know thoughts on assistance movements, as far as if any or where to insert them when doing the Texas method. Thanks.
If you guys have PBS, tonight on their series American Masters they are talking to Jeff Bridges and it’s called The Dude Abides. On the commercial I saw, he goes to a Lebowski themed store and meets the owner and fans. Looks pretty good. I’m in California and my Dish network guide says 9pm.
I mean, say what you want about the tenets of national socialism, at least it’s an ethos
Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a shit about the rules? Mark it zero!
Justin, I clipped my chin jerking today. It made me think of you. I chipped my tooth. You can’t see it, but I can feel it. But, I hit a PR, so…whatever. I’m going to C&J 80kg at Worlds. Just sayin’.
Eight year olds, dude. Eight year olds.
Smokey my friend, you’re entering a world of pain.
I give you WAMU 88.5 (DC NPR) talk show host Kojo Nnamdi. A real undercover badass.
http://img.youtube.com/vi/lga8e4sHNEo/0.jpg
Me and Charlie, eyeball to eyeball. Now that is f$ckin combat.
Justin, what happened to the monthly challenges? Any chance of bringing them back?
You might wanna watch out that front window Larry. Son, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU FUCK A STRANGER IN THE ASS!!!
Litte pricks stonewallin’ me.
TBone at least it wasn’t a front tooth you chipped.
Although if it was you could have treated us all with a late Christmas card:
http://thenastyboys.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/lloydchristmas.jpg
@grotts
adding assistance work to TM sounds like it could be overkill. TM is already alot of work requiring alot of recovery, so I dont know if it’s wise or not. Maybe if you went extra light on volume day and put some assistance stuff at the end of that workout? also maybe you could just replace each main lift on volume day with its assistance counter parts, like dips and dumbell presses instead of bench, etc.,? then again these could be horrible suggestions. Im just thinking of what I would do if I felt I needed some assistance with TM. Try it n find out, unless one of the many more experienced people than me on here says it’s dumb haha. Probably depends on how long you’ve been doing TM and how well youve been recovering thus far. Where you think you need to add in more assistance work, you might actually need to be backing off and recovering better.
Justin in line with the above comment, if I wanted to run a TM with an emphasis on the Press (no benching at all), would it be safe to insert 3×5 heavy dips on Recovery day between the two presses?
I want to do heavy dips one day a week with the preference being Wednesday, but is this likely to interfere with Fridays 5RM press?
I realise experimentation is the only way to yield the true answer, but I’m interested in your opinion on the optimum positioning for the dips.
Would this work?
MONDAY
Squat 5×5
Press 5×5
Wtd Chin 3×5
WEDNESDAY
Power clean 5×3
Wtd Dip 3×5
Light squat 2x
FRIDAY
Squat 5RM
Press 5RM
DL 5RM
This is my first attempt with the TM. I looked around quite a bit and am going with a fairly generic version of it:
Monday: 5×5 squat, 5×5 Press (alternate weekly with bench), 5×5 BB row. All sets straight across.
Wed: 80% or Mondays for 2 sets of each.
Friday: 5RM of each with the exception of row, replacing with DL
Maybe something to consider with including dips is to something similar to what I am doing with the press and the bench press (which I took from Rip’s PP). It basically breaks down Monday is press, Wed is bench, Fri is press, and the next week the opposite, still abiding by the said volume/intensity that comes with the day. Hopefully that makes sense.
Actually from the storm a few weeks back, but since I spent today snowblowing as well, it’s appropriate. My winter 70s big face:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs027.snc6/165769_551679727660_41900444_31996376_3102088_n.jpg
Keeping the beard going since the challenge, it’s great for keeping the face warm all winter long!
Justin what do you consider strong?
Justin – keep a look out in your e-mail, just submitted the pulled pork recipe.
Justin and anyone else who cares to answer:
How big of a role do you believe genetics play in one’s weightlifting/bodybuilding/powerlifting success? I read on t-nation that Andy Bolton was able to squat 500 and deadlift 600 at age 18 with no previous training experience, and there are plenty of people with multi-year experience who can’t do this. I feel like that t-nation article was likely to make readers to attribute shortcomings to their genetics rather than bro-science influenced training, but I’m curious to hear your thoughts.
That rud tied the room together. Did it not?
rug*
@gurner
I would put weighted dips in after Press on the intensity day or volume day. If you did only 2×5 Dips on wednesday you will probably recover by Friday, or likewise do what Bill Starr recommends in SS.com’s Press article an all out set of 8,5 or 3 then a backoff (on 5 and 3 day) of 50lbs less.
For example I used 115×8 on dips and 90×8 pull-ups this tuesday and was able to improve my 1RM press 2.5lbs the next day to 210.
I also would advise against doing a 5RM for your press intensity day as strength in the press requires a fine line and higher reps don’t reinforce this. The press when trained for poundage instead of for big shoulders or bench assistance is an olympic lift, quite technical and ought to be treated as such. I don’t think work sets should be longer than 3 reps. And I personally only use singles as work sets the same way I’ve trained the Snatch and CJ.
For volume day you could either skip Pressing and do several sets of dips in the 8 or 5 rep range and accumulate 35-50 reps of heavy volume or do heavy press 6×3.
In the first example you would want to press lighter on Wednesday for the practice of the movement.
I’m inclined to add you also should bench press even if improving your press is the primary goal as benching with your press grip was a popular assistance exercise when the Press was contested. So if you are able and have access to a bench you might consider putting a 4th workout in your sequence of upper body lifts and rotating through 3 of the 4 each week. You’d bench every 9-10 days this way. And press twice as frequently, the same ratio Rippetoe recommends for people who’s main goal is to improve their press.
Hope this helps.
Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, uh, your opinion, man.
OW! Fucking fascist!
And now whenever I watch the movie I’ll be on the lookout for Walter’s 70sBig face.
@dcurrin: bahahaha great timing
@a.k. I’ll kick you in the nuts and burn your house down!