In this podcast I talk with Dr. Michael Hartman, a college professor, weightlifting coach, sport scientist, and new father. We also collaborated with Dr. Lon Kilgore to create a strength training, endurance, and fitness resource called FIT (I’ve been using the strength chapter to plan advanced lifting programs).
Hartman as Ditka says LISTEN TO THE PODCAST
We talk a little bit about FIT, but also talk about weightlifting in the Pan American Games last week and the upcoming weightlifting World Championships occurring next week in Paris. There’s some time spent on talking about Kendrick Farris, how he did at Pan Ams, his jerk, and when Hartman met him as a school age lifter. Then we get into various questions about weightlifting including hitting a solid rack position in the snatch, push-pressing, rack position in the push-press and jerk, and possibly doing an old-time weightlifting meet with the clean and press, snatch, and clean and jerk. This podcast flows very well and has a lot of good information in it.
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1:18:13 long
There’s still something goofy happening with iTunes despite my podcast submission. Will let you know when it’s working.
Feel free to ask questions about Dr. Hartman, the podcast, or weightlifting here. Good questions will be used for Friday’s Q&A, and you can ask them to Dr. Hartman too. You can find other 70’s Big podcasts (including more weightlifting material with Glenn Pendlay) HERE.
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Great podcast. Don’t ever worry about them being too long. Some of us need entertainment during our 10 hours trapped in a cubicle. I have a question that doesn’t really apply to the podcast though, but rather dead lifting. A lot of what I’ve read seems to make the case for a relatively narrow stance for the conventional dead lift due to mechanical advantages and so on. Due to some mobility issues I began dead lifting with a narrower stance (roughly 6 inches in between feet) because it felt more comfortable to get down and also because my own research seemed to advocate for the narrower stance. Thanks to you, Justin, my mobility is greatly improving and I feel almost back to normal with my previous wider stance (feet approx. just outside shoulder width). I pulled an easy 445# yesterday with the wider stance and 480# is my current PR before the stance/mobility issues. I’m curious, since I seem to be going against what most consider an ideal stance, is this just a product of my specific body type leverages and I don’t need to worry, or is there something else going on that I’m doing wrong and I’m trying to counteract other inefficiencies. My short term goal is to get over 500# in the 181 class so I have a little ways to go but I want to make sure the basic efficacy of the lift is solid. The only other noteworthy aspect is that my weak point has always been off the floor, and the wider stance seems to help. Lockout has never seemed to be an issue. Thanks.
I enjoyed the podcast. And, the picture of Ditka is awesome. I have a scarf that says, “The Mike Ditka street crew, we came to do you wrong”. Question on the podcast. In the beginning you and Hartman started to mention about the bar drifting away during the first pull of the lift. I did not hear any recommendations to remedy the bar drift during the first pull. I suffer from this problem when I get close to my PR or slightly above. What would be the recommendation? Heavy pulls from the floor?
DITKA!
This pic has been hanging in my parents’ outhouse since the 80’s. Not kidding
http://mike100915.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/mikeditka.jpg
That must be a chicago thing. I’ve seen that picture in many Chicago houses in my lifetime…
And I never get tired of seeing it!
+1 on Bohdi’s question. I’ve had that same question ever since I saw that photo of Bill Starr lifting with the really narrow stance. I’ve tried going narrow but it doesn’t feel right. I sort of feel unstable doing it with less than 12″ the heels. I’m also trying to get to 500.
Bohdi – I’m not Justin, but I occasionally play him on the internet. I’d say pull with whatever stance you’re most comfortable with. I personally am just narrower than shoulder width, and most of my friends/trainees find it to be their favorite as well. Make sure you are forcing your knees out a bit to get the adductors into play.
If you’re having problems off the floor, the first thing is to make sure you are never, ever doing touch and go deads. The second thing is to check your mechanics and make sure you’re using your quads off the floor. A vid helps here. Sometimes the solution is to pull from a small block, say about 2″. Usually the solution is just to get stronger.
Don’t psyche yourself out about 500. It won’t be too tough. Focus on 600 and 500 will just happen.
Thanks Jacob. I assure you I’m not doing any touch and go deads. A lot of weeks I’ll do deficit pulls which I thinks is what your referencing when you mention blocks. I notice that with the wider stance it’s easier to force my knees out to initiate the pull and the wider stance also makes it easier to keep my butt from popping up yoo early in the pull. The reason I asked is I just basically have never read anything advocating a wider stance so it was worth questioning.
What are touch and go deadlifts?
@merdock69 – they’re when you finish your rep (touch the floor with your barbell), but instead of resetting your setup, you immediately pull again. In a high-rep set, touch-and-go often deteriorates to a sloppy bounce off the floor.
Here’s a decent set:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUpM2BrieME
Since the lats aid in internal rotation, would fucking sweet lats help make an overhead position in the snatch more stable? If not does lat strength have any real carry over into oly lifting?
Yo Justin, what do you think of IIFYM (If It Fits Your Macros (then eat it) as a nutrition approach. Basically, build your diet around whole foods blah blah blah, but if you want a bit of ice cream, a cheeseburger, or some tacos and beers with friends, enjoy–as long as you adjust your day’s (or week’s) total intake so that this stuff fits within your macro scheme. This way you’re not totally avoiding pleasurable foods like an orthorexic freakshow just because they’re not on an approved list of “pure” or “good” or “clean” foods.
I just heard this acronym today and realized it describes my nutrition approach pretty well.
^First sentence was a question.^
I enjoyed the podcast. The longer the better I reckon. Thanks Justin & Dr Hartman.
I have a question about the Push Press. I saw this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcr9KiBrEHg) from CalStrength a while ago, showing Donnie Shankle PP’ing from his traps…so, like, a “behind-the-neck-push-press”. Is this the movement that Glenn is referencing when he talks about the Push Press? Is it a significantly different movement (wrt to strength development and carry over to other lifts)? I am as yet unable to rest the bar on my delts, so this is an attractive alternative to me.
Remember I’m a novice lifter, so my apologies is this seems like a stupid question.
Awesome podcast. You touched a lot of interesting points. I think Hartman should be on more often.
@doogie
The bar drifting is most likely a strength issue. Heavy pulls will help; but you also have to concentrate on keeping your heels down, shoulders over the bar, and use your lats to pull the bar back into your hips. Hope this helps.
You mentioned Joe Mills in the beginning of the podcast. My Olympic coach here in ct Gary Valentine knew Joe and trained with him for many years. Every training session we hear numerous great quotes from Mr. Mills.
Justin, where in iTunes are all these podcasts located? Searching “70’s Big” or your name didn’t have anything. Can someone give a link or tell me what to search?
For some reason they aren’t showing up in iTunes and I don’t know why. I have submitted it and everything, so I’ll probably need someone to adjust the RSS code — something I don’t know how to do. I’ll let you guys know when it’s available. Until then, you’ll just have to download it and put it on the podcast manually.
–Justin
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